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Today I tried #ClawsMail and took sometime to organize my #Email inbox. I also reread some old conversations, which was quite fun too. This is day 9 of #100DaysToOffload cc:@bbbhltz

https://joelchrono12.xyz/blog/organizing-my-email-and-memories/
#email #100DaysToOffload #clawsmail @bbbhltz
Tin :endeavourOS:
I used #ClawsMail a long time ago and really loved it. I tried it last year and it seemed to have some issues with Gmail. Does your setup include any Gmail addresses?
#clawsmail
Joel G. :blobcatderpy:
@tin It does now, I just followed the wiki guidelines. I had to create my own OAuth key thingies.

Everything's here if you read it properly it should work fine 😛

https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Oauth2#Setting_up_OAuth_2.0_for_Gmail
@Tin :endeavourOS:
Joel G. :blobcatderpy:
@tin@RL_Dane you may be interested in this, since I recall you not using Claws due to the lack of oauth, you might wanna check it out! If you went thru the trouble of setting up kde this is easy :blobcatderpy:
@R. L. Dane @Tin :endeavourOS:
R. L. Dane
@tin

I'm still 'rasslin' with KDE. My Panel is giving me fits. I just tried the latest kernel, and I'm hoping it'll fix the black-screen and/or unresponsive after resuming from suspend issue.

New hardware (and non-Lenovo) is a trip.

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@Tin :endeavourOS:
Steve White
Neon? Or did you just install plasma on something else?
R. L. Dane
@stwhite@tin

#OpenSuSE #Tumbleweed, which is a KDE-by-default (but not exclusively so), rolling-release (but not bleeding edge), fairly stable, RPM-but-not-RedHat-based distro.
It's got some warts, It's SuSE, GmBH's equivalent to fedora, but with a little less end-user sugar. But it *is* pretty easy to use. Just not as easy as Manjaro or Kubuntu.

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#OpenSUSE #tumbleweed @Tin :endeavourOS: @Steve White
R. L. Dane
@stwhite@tin

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I keep a running tally of things I have to do to it to make is usable, like hunting in the install tool to find where I can set the hostname, silly things like that.

But if you're willing to learn, experiment, and troubleshoot (a little!!), it's actually pretty nice.

I kinda love KDE-focused distros, and look ma! no snaps! 😛
@Tin :endeavourOS: @Steve White
Joel G. :blobcatderpy:
@RL_Dane@stwhite@tin thanks for using my comment section for this very related stuff :blobcatderpy: (dont worry lol)
@R. L. Dane @Tin :endeavourOS: @Steve White
R. L. Dane
@stwhite@tin

Hey, I was asked, I answered. 😛

You should be glad... all my inane ramblings will be worth something someday... lol
@Tin :endeavourOS: @Steve White
R. L. Dane
@tin

Bookmarked! I might try it on my thinkpad some time.

I'm so lazy now that I have a 12th-gen i7 with 32GB ram...

"Yeah, I'll just leave some firefox tabs open, run Falkon for some messaging stuff (so I don't have to muck with Electron), and a whole 'nother gecko engine with Thunderbird... meh."

I've become the very thing I hated!!!! lol
@Tin :endeavourOS:
Steve White
I can relate. I've got the M1 Max 32GB and "who cares about how many browsers I have open?"

Unless it's chrome and one tab takes up 64GB of RAM
Tin :endeavourOS:
@stwhite@RL_Dane My quest for a lightweight browser is never-ending. I really like Palemoon, but Palemoon does not like a lot of the modern web, sadly.
@R. L. Dane @Steve White
R. L. Dane
@tin@stwhite
Boromir:

One does not simply maintain a fork of Firefox.

My favorite lightweight browser is... w3m. Yep. Commandline.

For graphical, it's a toss-up between Dillo (almost useless, but kinda dear), NetSurf (almost useful, that's what's so frustrating!), and luakit/qutebrowser with a side of suckless.org's Surf.

But I would highly recommend Falkon. It's not *super* lightweight, but it's a VERY functional WebKit browser.
@Tin :endeavourOS: @Steve White
Joel G. :blobcatderpy:
@RL_Dane@tin@stwhite Dillo can be used to display html email in Claws actually (it's only plain text by default) and it worked quite well on my testing
@R. L. Dane @Tin :endeavourOS: @Steve White
R. L. Dane
@tin@stwhite

Honestly, why in heck do we need full Gecko/Webkit engine to display HTML emails? That is so stupid! I don't want that much of an attack surface via email! (even without JS, obviously)
@Tin :endeavourOS: @Steve White
Joel G. :blobcatderpy:
@RL_Dane@tin@stwhite try claws man, if you already have like 5 emails clients or smth why not one more?
@R. L. Dane @Tin :endeavourOS: @Steve White
R. L. Dane
@tin@stwhite

lol, I've used it (and its daddy Sylpheed) in the past. I'll try it again if I need to get some real work done on one of my low-spec boxen.
@Tin :endeavourOS: @Steve White
fedops 💙💛
@RL_Dane seriously, this needs to be printed out and wrapped around the cluebat.
@joel@tin@stwhite
@Joel G. :blobcatderpy: @R. L. Dane @Tin :endeavourOS: @Steve White
R. L. Dane
@fedops@tin@stwhite

Now I'm wanting to seriously give Claws another try
@fedops 💙💛 @Tin :endeavourOS: @Steve White
R. L. Dane
Gmail doesn't like me. And it's even a Gmail workspace account, not personal gmail. Just get an auth error and it keeps asking for my password. No alerts or errors when I log into the gmail web interface. :blobcatderpy:
Joel G. :blobcatderpy:
@RL_Dane did you follow the oauth guide in claws' wiki?
@R. L. Dane
R. L. Dane
I found it. When I saw that I had to create my own API key... for every email address (I manage at least four)... not happening, mein freud. I *just* managed to get my own API key for rclone going. I can't imagine doing it multiple times in one day. :/
Tin :endeavourOS:
I just set it up, and it does work! I've been using aerc to get my gmail at the command line, so I may be spoiled by that, but I'll take another look at Claws, because we deserve better than Thunderbird, honestly.
R. L. Dane
@tin

I even bookmarked this, and then completely forgot about it and discovered it with some ducking.

HIGH quality gray matter, I tell ya! 😛
@Tin :endeavourOS:
phoebos
re some of your hopes with #neomutt: to select and move multiple emails, you can tag them (press 't' or 'Esc-t' to tag a whole thread) and then to perform a command on them all, do the command prefixed by ';'. For example, to move all tagged emails to a folder called 'Archive':

;s=Archive
#neomutt
Joel G. :blobcatderpy:
@phoebos yes I went and figured this out after some research. It's awesome
@phoebos

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